true to form... they blame what may have been a benign or even pleasant 'sin' for the lingering emotional trauma..not the years of hateful shunning
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Can anyone help?
by Pink sapphire inhi, i'm doing some research, which many here have participated in and could do with some help.. on another forum some months ago someone commented that in a july 1992 watchtower it said that the emotional effects of disfellowshipping may last far beyond reinstatement.
i thought this a really interesting statement and would like to include it in my assignment, acknowledging the harm done by disfellowshipping and its not just a protective and disciplinary process.
i don't know if i believe they would actually go that far.. my problem is that i have no access to wt literature (i dont really want fo visit my old congregation library) and the online library on www.jw.org only goes back to 2000. does anyone here have access to bound volumes and a bit of time that they could check this out for me?.
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It,s time to fight back, this is getting out of hand.
by jam inany suggestions to bring a end to the attacks on us who have.
left the borg and continuing efforts to alienate our love one still.
in the borg.. how about this, we all send letters to hq, flood the mail room with.
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I too wish Cedars would give us a little clue about his current machinations....we're getting restless (militant) here Cedars...
I'm going to print some 4x12 stickers aimed at shaming local JWs who follow the wt methods - stick them in visible places no one cares about - dumpsters, abandoned cars, info boards, laundromats, poles etc etc....and listen for local feedback.
marry some art work off the net and good visible fonts, take the format on a chip to a good printer - zap!
We as individuals can expose the very things this cult wants to hide - their history of failures, their suppression of freedom of thought and freedom of religion, the ¨myth'' of shunning, abuse of family and natural affections,
and at the same time direct attention to this or other sites that aid recovery or support faders (there are thousands fading everywhere)
Perhaps the moderators could offer their guidance regarding the last point?
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It,s time to fight back, this is getting out of hand.
by jam inany suggestions to bring a end to the attacks on us who have.
left the borg and continuing efforts to alienate our love one still.
in the borg.. how about this, we all send letters to hq, flood the mail room with.
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Jam and Fink-
I´m with you both on this one.
In the late 80´s Dan Skinner was our CO. He opened his meeting with our elder body, with this unpublished statistic from the WTS - that there were (as of that time) as many disfellowshipped as there were actual witnesses.
A sobering factoid I never forgot. The percentage today is likely much greater as a poster surmised.
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I went to church on Sunday, and the world did not come to an end.
by LisaRose inback story, i left the jws 13 years ago, just walked away, moved to another state, and married a guy i had gone to high school with 28 years previously.
at first i was just happy to be away from the dubs and the thought of any organized religion just made me sick, and as most of you know, the dubs do a good job of tearing down other religions, so my thinking was still influenced by the wtbts in some areas.
i considered myself agnostic for a long time.. i occasionally visited my husband's parents church when we were visiting.
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Lisa Rose-
What a nice experience for you.
When I was a dub I especially liked going to the weddings of our church nieghbours or relatives. I love classic architecture
and there is NOTHING, NoTHING that compares to a real old organ. Varnished woodwork, vaulted cielings, exposed beamwork,,
stained glass and squeaky wooden floors - bring 'em on. Some of the things I loved and missed from my Anglican roots.
Fine people, great nieghbours and friends and never anything but gracious conduct and respect were shown.
No wonder my Mom was offended when I took my kids to the f___n KH.
Keep us posted on your new friends lives - GfG
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Jesus turns up at Kingdom Hall - brothers ordered not to treat him "with partiality" because of his looks (and beard)
by cedars inhi folks.
the new june 15th watchtower is now on jw.org in case you are interested!
here is the link... http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/28/w_e_20130615.pdf.
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Morality may not be the issue. Rutherford may have invested the early watchtower heavily in Gillette.
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Going to the meeting tonight ARGH!!!! So wanna end this pain NOW!
by Julia Orwell ini'm only going to the meeting because of my husband!
i was 'in' solo for years while living with my unbelieving family and i know how it feels to be the only one in your house going to the meeting.
i also respect my husband's decision, and know what it's like to have family try to tear down your beliefs.
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Julia-
what a nice turn of phrase ¨*....in the watchtower night.* may I appropriate it for a poem some day?
Who wouldnt have such night terrors associating with people who dont care care about the poor or sick?
Punk you are sooo right about 'Smile and nod.' I spend months of my life living and travelling in countries whose languages I do not speak.
When friends ask me if I can speak the lingo, I say '' No, but I can smile and nod in any known language.''....and everything works out just fine.
Julia no longer thinks nor speaks 'watchtower' it is now foriegn to her - what to do but smile and nod.
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JW bumper stickers
by innerpeace inso my husband (who was never a jw) saw a christian bumper sticker today and asked me if the witnesses have any.
i said no (not that i know of anyway) so here are a few he came up with.. 'honk if you're a zombie'.
'my other car is noah's ark'.
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LIE THREATEN SHUN !!
learn how today at any Kingdom Hall
Jehovah noun, name for an impotent diety. invented 1280 A.D.
Fade vb. the act of escaping from Jehovahs witnesses
visit Watchtower Headquarters
see our 8 little popes hiding from paedophilia laws
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Belated Intro to Rubadubdub. My hubby lurked on JWN for the first time last night!
by rubadubdub ini'm so excited-my hubby who faded over 30 years ago finally lurked here on jwn!.
i've been posting on a few threads here and there for a while now, but have not officially introduced myself.
i have told bits and pieces of my story already.
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Rubadubdub..
What a fabulous success story!
Freedom is a wonderful gift, no matter when we accept it.
Your love for your family will continue to pay joyful dividends to you all, and I hope your son can soon feel the mud washing from his life too.
I live in La Ceiba, Honduras, maybe your daughter teaches our son!
Thank you, thank you for sharing. GfG
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wow that just hit me like a ton of bricks
by cptkirk init just hit me why none of you have a clue as to who i am or what to make of me.
you are all completely foreigners lol...wow that is like crazy as shit.
most of you have not even a clue as to east coast hardcore new york philly personality types, esp of xy generation.
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jgnat ....
Thanks for quoting wisdom ,as you always do,..certainly the highlight of this thread! It,s obvious why you admire Schweitzer so much.
My mom thought and spoke of him often when I was young. I will look for that book this summer. GfG
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Introduction - longtime visitor
by momentofsurrender injust a (slightly) quick introduction for now.
i am a 4th generation born in.
father an elder since i was an infant.
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Momentos...... Welcome to some great new friendships on here!
Your story rings so true, you could be family. You have made me very happy today, to see that you
have found your way to freedom...and it just gets better and better everyday! GfG